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Google DeepMind: The Podcast

What is generative AI? How do you create safe and capable models? Where is the industry headed in the next decade?

Join Professor Hannah Fry as she uncovers the extraordinary way AI is transforming our world.

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Catch up on the latest AI advancements directly from the people helping to shape our collective future.

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Hear from the brilliant people building the technology of the future. Learn how AI is helping people with degenerative diseases, conserving the unique wildlife of the Serengeti, and taking football to the next level.

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World-class scientists and thinkers—many speaking publicly for the first time—explain the foundations of AI. They join Hannah as she explores the challenges the field wrestles with, and dives into research that’s led to breakthroughs like AlphaGo and AlphaFold.

I hope this series gives people a better understanding of artificial intelligence and a feeling for just how exhilarating an endeavour it is.

Demis Hassabis
Co-founder and CEO, Google DeepMind

Professor Hannah Fry posing outdoors. It's autumn – a tree in the background's leaves have turned golden brown.

About Hannah Fry

Professor Hannah Fry is an award-winning science presenter, public speaker, bestselling author, and academic known for her joyful ability to bring maths to life for audiences of all interests and abilities.

Hannah is a regular host of BBC programmes and podcasts and is a Professor in the Mathematics of Cities at the Centre for Advanced Spatial Analysis at UCL.

Credits

A huge thank you to everyone who asked the questions that inspired us to make this podcast.

We’d also like to say thanks to our talented presenter, contributors and creative producers who helped craft the idea into the final programmes.

We really enjoyed making this podcast—and hope you enjoy listening to it.

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Thanks to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to:

Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry
Series Producer: Dan Hardoon
Editor: Rami Tzabar, TellTale Studios
Commissioner & Producer: Emma Yousif
Production support: Mo Dawoud
Music composition: Eleni Shaw

Camera Director and Video Editor: Tommy Bruce
Audio Engineer: Perry Rogantin
Video Studio Production: Nicholas Duke
Video Editor: Bilal Merhi
Video Production Design: James Barton
Visual Identity and Design: Eleanor Tomlinson

Commissioned by Google DeepMind

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Presenter: Hannah Fry
Series Producer: Dan Hardoon
Production support: Jill Achineku
Sounds design: Emma Barnaby
Music composition: Eleni Shaw
Sound Engineer: Nigel Appleton
Editor: David Prest

Season 1

Presenter: Hannah Fry
Editor: David Prest
Series Producer: Louisa Field
Producers: Amy Racs, Dan Hardoon
Binaural sound: Lucinda Mason-Brown
Music composition: Eleni Shaw (with help from Sander Dieleman and WaveNet)

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The road to AGI

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Season 2, Episode 5

The road to AGI

Hannah meets DeepMind co-founder and chief scientist Shane Legg, the man who coined the phrase ‘artificial general intelligence’, and explores how it might be built. Why does Shane think AGI is possible? When will it be realised? And what could it look like? Hannah also explores a simple theory of using trial and error to reach AGI and takes a deep dive into MuZero, an AI system which mastered complex board games from chess to Go, and is now generalising to solve a range of important tasks in the real world.